Who is the Messiah from a Hebraic Perspective?

In this Podcast (part 1 of 2) we ask the question of who/what the first believers expected the Messiah to be; why many Jewish people reject the belief that Yeshua is this end-times Messiah; how Christians have misunderstood his ministry and how we should view the Messiah.

In this our second podcast, Pastor Aubrey and I look back through time to Yeshua’s day and ask the question of who the Messiah was to be; who was expected; what sort of man was he to be; what was he to do? What was the understanding that the first disciples would have had and how did they see Yeshua as fitting their criteria.

How does the answer to this question help us some 2000 years later, both in a better appreciation of who Yeshua is; but also a better appreciation of typical Jewish perspectives on Yeshua as the Messiah. Also how does such an understanding help us now as we look forward to the Coming Age?

Podcast – click here – part 2 out in a few days.

Articles & links:

Background article: http://www.charismacomputers.com.au/The%20Messiah%20from%20an%20Hebraic%20perspective.pdf

JewFAQ.org – 11 attributes of the Messiah – http://www.jewfaq.org/mashiach.htm

Site on Isaiah 7:14 issues – see Doctrine of the Virgin Birth at http://www.wallsofjericho.info/

For more on issues with Ps 22; Zex 12:10; Dan 9:24-27 see ‘The Teacher and the Preacher’ by Moshe Avraham Kempinksi

Podcast #2: Who is the Messiah from a Hebraic Perspective? Part 1 of 2
http://aubreyandpaul.podomatic.com/entry/2012-09-10T05_46_56-07_00

The Times of Yeshua

Understanding the times in which Yeshua (Jesus) lived in vital to properly interpreting what he said and did and who he was.

I have shared some of my extensive research on this issue on a number of occasions. The Podcast at the link below was from the first time I spoke on this. The linked powerpoint is from another session I gave on this topic at a Sukkot Celebration.

Podcast: The Times of Yeshua
Related Powerpoint: Talk 2 The Times of Yeshua latest version

I would recommend listening to this talk as preparation for our next Podcast.

In Session 2 we will touch on some of the following:

  • Who is he Messiah from a Jewish perspective?
  • Who he is-what he is to do– in what ways have Christians misunderstood his ministry?
  • Why some Jewish people may reject the christian messianic perspective;
  • How we should view the Messiah?
  • Who the New Covenant is with—when the New Covenant-Testament will be instated—who are the parties involved?
  • How does Yeshua mediate the covenant—why believers are, or are not experiencing the NC-NT as of yet?
  • What happens when Yeshua is returned to earth?
  • Why the Torah as not been abolished–Will the Torah ever be abolished?

Yom Teruah Approaches

Some thoughts as Yom Teruah approaches:

The Apostle Paul believed that God’s adoption of the Gentiles was to precede the restoration of Israel (including the full return from exile and re-establishment of Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel).

Therefore the Apostle Paul believed that God had temporarily hardened the hearts of many Israelites to the truth regarding Yeshua as the eschatological Messiah so that Paul’s mission to the Gentiles could first be accomplished.

So, as Prof Paula Fredriksen points out in ‘Judaism, the Circumcision, and Apocalyptic Hope: Another Look at Galatians 1 and 2,’ “a generation after his experience of the Risen Messiah, and despite the great Day having not yet dawned, Paul could still ‘coherently and reasonably affirm to the Church at Rome  that ‘salvation is nearer to us that when we first believed’ (Romans 13:11)” – p564.

It is also instructive to recognize that this statement of the Apostle Paul’s in Romans 13 is part of his exhortation to the Gentile believers in Yeshua (worshiping God within the Jewish synagogues/homes in Rome), that they are to show proper respect and obedience to the Jewish leaders (‘ministers of God’) of these synagogues (see Mark Nanos, ‘The Mystery of Romans’ for the full explanation of this historical setting – here is an introduction).

It is also vital that we see that Paul (Rav Sha’ul), in true Hebraic fashion is generally speaking corporately, rather than individually, when he speaks of salvation.

Thus he sees the Coming Age as imminent as Gentiles are turning from their idolatrous practices to the One True God of Israel and fulfilling the promise to Abraham that he would become the father of many nations.

It would appear (to me at least) that Paul did not fully appreciate that the Tanakh’s prophecy of a dispersion to ‘the uttermost parts of heaven (earth)’ (Deut 30:4) had not yet been fully enacted and so the end times return from exile could not yet occur. (This return, a miracle greater than the parting of the Red Sea, is now occurring before our very eyes! – see my ‘Israel: Return in Belief or Unbelief’ at www.circumcisedheart.info for some more detail on this.)

And yet, for the Apostle Paul’s message to fully reach to all Gentiles throughout the entire earth, perhaps it really did need the historical events of the last, almost 2000 years for this to occur.

The Apostle Paul believed he lived in the ‘end times’ and that in those times God would graciously redeem the nations (gentiles) from their idolatry without the ‘works of the Law’ (Jewish proselytization) and so Jew and Gentile would go up to the mountain of the LORD, to worship together at the House of Jacob (Zec 14:16-21).

Before the resurrection of Yeshua, Gentiles who were learning about the One True God, the Creator of the Universe through attending synagogues on Shabbat (Sabbath), could only enter the family of God by undertaking the ‘works of the Law’ and becoming Jews (Israelites). With only Jews gaining entry into the Kingdom of God, this meant that prophecies such as Zec 14:16-21 could not be fulfilled.

I believe that somehow Yeshua revealed to the Apostle Paul that God had initiated a new way; a new path through which Gentiles could become fully ‘children of Abraham’,  and equal members of the Kingdom, while still remaining Gentiles.

This revelation of the Messiahship of Yeshua and the imminent arrival of the Coming Age (the Olam HaBah) brought great joy to the Apostle Paul and drove him forward in his mission with great energy and passion.  I have written at some length on this in both ‘The Mystery of Romans: A Torah and Shema Centric View’ and in ‘The Tripartite Salvation Paradigm’.

Note as well verse 9 of this prophecy of Zechariah: “And the LORD will be king over all the earth. On that day the LORD will be One and his name One.”

Perhaps the increasing recognition and rejection of such idolatrous doctrines as the Trinity and ‘Dual Nature of Christ’, etc., coupled with an increasing embrace of Torah by Gentiles in particular, is indicative of the lateness of the hour in this 2000 year ‘end times’ scenario?

Perhaps also the increasing recognition of Jewish scholarship; of brilliant Jewish theologians like the late David Flusser; Prof Mark Nanos; and Rabbi’s like Abraham Joshua Heschel, Ken Spiro and Moshe Reiss, to name just a few shows that Zec 8:23 is also being fulfilled before our eyes!

Zec 8:23:

“Thus says the LORD of hosts: In those days ten men from the nations of every tongue shall take hold of the robe of a Jew, saying, Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.” 

As it appears to me that this great prophecy has not yet come to full realisation, this is just one of a number of reasons why I don’t believe that this Yom Teruah is THE Yom Teruah.

However, there is great tension in the air; many sense the Spirit of Adonai moving; something momentous may yet occur.

I believe Yeshua will return on a Yom Teruah in the near future (see my article for details) – may it be soon!

Unity

In trying to reveal truth and uncover treasure, we also hope to bring unity amongst those who seek to be obedient to the Almighty.

Unity does not mean having to agree on everything; true unity is not found by rejecting all who may not agree so that only those left agree! True unity means being humble and respectful of others who are also made in the image of the Almighty.

I mentioned in our introduction a talk I gave at a Sukkot Celebration in 2010. I started with Psalm 69: 5 -9

“5 You know my folly, O God; my guilt is not hidden from you.
6 May those who hope in you not be disgraced because of me, O Lord, the Lord Almighty; may those who seek you not be put to shame because of me, O God of Israel.
7 For I endure scorn for your sake, and shame covers my face.
8 I am a stranger to my brothers, an alien to my own mother’s sons;
9 for zeal for your house consumes me, and the insults of those who insult you fall on me.”

This great prayer and supplication of King David is a cry not to be an impediment to others seeking the Almighty; not to, by my/our actions or approach, bring dishonour to the Almighty and so in some way act as a barrier to others finding God.

If our behaviour, in not reflecting the righteousness of Yeshua, led to seekers rejecting God and then ultimately bringing shame on themselves; then our foolishness or failure to be faithful and fully obedient was partly responsible for their choosing the wrong path. Our zeal for the Almighty has then been ineffective and in fact, detrimental to the cause.

We pray that we may not in any way be an impediment to your search for the Creator and King of the Universe and The Way (Ps 119).
I share how this Psalm impacted me in this video: ( The visual quality is quite poor, but the message may still come across if you are interested):

The Finger of Yeshua points to YHVH

One of Aubrey’s posts was so awesome I felt the need to take it out of it’s personal context and repeat it here. Praise be to God!

A slightly paraphrased version of a very powerful and anointed comment by Pastor Aubrey Burt:

“I say, YHVH is the center and focus of Yeshua’s Message!

Yeshua came to please his Father, not to be the focus of mankind, but to teach mankind how to honor YHVH, THE ONE TRUE GOD.

What the Scriptures say about YHVH bring glory to YHVH!

What the scriptures say of Yeshua is that he brings the focus BACK to the FATHER, and His Torah, not to himself.

Some say, God wants us to put our attention on/toward his beloved son…..this is FALSE.

He wants no other gods before him, yet many don’t live UP to God’s commandments, because the Yeshua/Jesus they preach abolished them, which now gives them the supposed right to make who they want, as the god they want.

The Son of God wants us to put our focus on YHVH, not himself.

WHO RAISED YESHUA FROM THE DEAD? YHVH
WHO DID YESHUA ASCEND TO? YHVH
WHO SAVED YESHUA FROM DEATH AND HEARD HIS PRAYER? YHVH.
WHO ANOINTED YESHUA? YHVH.
WHO’S SPIRIT Spake thru Yeshua? YHVH.
WHO’S KINGDOM DID YESHUA PREACH? YHVH’S.
WHO MADE YESHUA A MEDIATOR? YHVH.
WHO GAVE YESHUA AUTHORITY? YHVH

WHAT MESSAGE DID Yeshua PREACH?

Matthew 3:2 “Turn from your sins to God, for the Kingdom of Heaven is near”

TURN TO WHO? G O D! ! !

Matthew 4:17 “From that time on, Yeshua began proclaiming, “Turn from your sins to God, for the Kingdom of Heaven is near!”

TURN TO WHO? G O D! ! !

Matthew 12:28 “But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the Kingdom of God has come upon you!”

WHO’S KINGDOM? G O D’s ! ! !

Mark 4:30 ‘Yeshua also said, “With what can we compare the Kingdom of God? What illustration should we use to describe it?’

WHO’S KINGDOM? G O D’s! ! !

Mark 10:15 “Yes! I tell you, whoever does not receive the Kingdom of God like a child will not enter it!”

RECEIVE WHO’S KINGDOM? G O D’s! ! !

Mark 10:23 “Yeshua looked around and said to his talmidim (disciples), “How hard it is going to be for people with wealth to enter the Kingdom of God!”

ENTER WHO’S KINGDOM? G O D’s! ! !

Mark 14:25 “Yes! I tell you, I will not drink this `fruit of the vine’ again until the day I drink new wine in the Kingdom of God.”

WHO’S KINGDOM DOES YESHUA EXPECT TO DRINK NEW WINE IN? G O D’s! ! !

Luke 4:43 “But he said to them, “I must announce the Good News of the Kingdom of God to the other towns too — this is why I was sent.”

WHAT KINGDOM WAS YESHUA SENT TO ANNOUNCE? G O D’s! ! !

Luke 9:60 Yeshua said, “Let the dead bury their own dead; you, go and proclaim the Kingdom of God!”

WHO’S KINGDOM DID YESHUA SAY TO PROCLAIM? G O D’s ! ! !

Luke 22:15 said to them, “I have really wanted so much to celebrate this Seder with you before I die! 16 For I tell you, it is certain that I will not celebrate it again until it is given its full meaning in the Kingdom of God.”

WHEN DOES PASSOVER GET IT’S—> FULL MEANING,<—- ACCORDING TO YESHUA? IN THE KINGDOM OF G O D ! ! !

John 3:5 Yeshua answered, "Yes, indeed, I tell you that unless a person is born from water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God.”

ENTER WHO'S KINGDOM? G O D’s ! ! !

Acts 1:3 After his death he showed himself to them and gave many convincing proofs that he was alive. During a period of forty days they saw him, and he spoke with them about the Kingdom of God.

WHO'S KINGDOM DID HE SPEAK ABOUT AFTER HIS DEATH? G O D’s! ! !

YESHUA PREACHED GOD."

He pointed all the lost back to the Almighty, NOT to himself. Thank you brother and soon coming King Yeshua and thank you brother Aubrey!

An Introduction to our ‘Sharp Arrow and Strong Draught Horse’ series of Podcasts

Pastor Aubrey Burt and I, Paul Herring have started a new joint venture – a series of Podcasts.

Here is the first one, the introduction – http://aubreyandpaul.podomatic.com/

Be blessed! Shalom!

Sites referred to:

www.circumcisedheart.info

www.restorationfellowship.info

www.honestreporting.com

The Olive Tree Connection: www.theolivetreeconnection.com